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heartbreaking post…

The children of Gaza I Channel 4 News

Jon Snow è un importantissimo giornalista britannico che nelle ultime settimane è stato testimone oculare dei fatti a Gaza e ha svolto il suo lavoro con estrema precisione e professionalità.

Se interessati, potete seguire il suo profilo twitter @jonsnowC4.

Questo è ciò che ha voluto comunicare ai suoi telespettatori ieri poco dopo il suo ritorno in G.Bretagna. A mio parere, il commento più azzeccato è stato: “this Jon Snow does not know nothing”.

Svegliatemi quando alla RAI assumeranno giornalisti del suo calibro.

Non solo Gaza

Tutta la Cisgiordania, da Nablus a Ramallah, passando per Gerusalemme e arrivando fino a Betlemme, scende in piazza in supporto dei loro fratelli gazawi, e l’IDF seda le proteste usando la forza. Oggi sono stati uccisi due civili. Fonti sia palestinesi che israeliane sostengono che le odierne manifestazioni di piazza abbiano oramai raggiunti i livelli di quelle svoltesi nel 2000-2005, durante la seconda Intifada.

Anche Abu Mazen e tutte le fazioni palestinesi concordano sulla necessità di alleviare le sofferenze che quotidianamente opprimono la Striscia di Gaza, richiedendo l’eliminazione del blocco totale che dal 2007 affligge i gazawi come
condizione necessaria e non negoziabile per un cessate il fuoco.

Una 50ina di riservisti israeliani hanno pubblicato un comunicato ove denunciano di volersi rifiutare a prestare servizio nell’IDF poiché ritengono che il loro sistema militare contribuisca quotidianamente all’oppressione palestinese. Per via di questa presa di posizione, questi giovani ragazzi rischiano l’arresto.

Numerosi intellettuali, ebrei e non, denunciano le operazioni israeliane sulla Striscia di Gaza e si appellano ai loro governi e alle organizzazioni internazionali per fermare il massacro di civili e imporre il rispetto del diritto internazionale.

I sindaci italiani delle città che si affacciano sul Mediterraneo denunciano le “operazioni militari intraprese in queste ore nella Striscia di Gaza”, ritenendo una “tragedia accettabile” “il crescente numero di vittime civili, in particolare di bambini e di donne”. Essi “esortano il Governo Italiano e l’Unione Europea ad adoperarsi per esercitare tutte le pressioni diplomatiche possibili per rendere concreta, nelle prossime ore, la sospensione delle attività militari”.

Il sindaco di Napoli Luigi De Magistris pubblica un forte comunicato chiedendo la fine del “genocidio del popolo palestinese”, condannando il “costante assassinio di civili inermi, la metodica distruzione di scuole e presidi sanitari, oltre che delle stesse strutture internazionali che operano sul territori al nostro paese”. Il sindaco conclude chiedendo al Governo Italiano “di sospendere ogni fornitura di armi verso Israele”.

Anche nel Parlamento Europeo, numerosi deputati richiedono la “fine della brutalità” contro i civili di Gaza, mostrando cartelli in supporto della popolazione palestinese.

Nel frattempo, l’Argentina si unisce al resto dei paesi del Sud America nel condannare esplicitamente “l’indiscriminato abuso di militarismo” da parte dello Stato ebraico nei confronti della popolazione palestinese.


Tutto il mondo scende ogni giorno in piazza per supportare il popolo palestinese, evidenziando quanto i loro governi siano lontani anni luce dal desiderio di pace e unione tra i popoli dei loro cittadini.

awwww they’re soooo cute!#JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies

awwww they’re soooo cute!

#JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies

Storia contemporanea, diritto internazionale, mass media e politica e altri livelli di analisi perfettamente concatenati l’uno con l’altro.

Probabilmente il migliore articolo letto finora.

[Per chi non fosse registrato sul sito del Manifesto, ecco la versione inglese: The propaganda war over the Gaza crisis]

amarielah:

scrokkalanotizia:

amarielah:

No, but you don’t have a right to appropriate intra-Jewish issues, attempt to shame us with our history of oppression, or tokenize those of us who agree with you.

Progressives in Israel are already voting for the politicians who support the measures you suggested, numbnuts. They’re being drowned out by right-wing votes. They’re also publicly protesting, and it isn’t doing jack shit. So, again, what do you expect them (us) to do? Do you have solutions that take actual political reality into account, or just more self-righteous platitudes?

I can tell you how you can help, though: instead of telling us that we should just not be afraid of the millions of people who say outright that they want to kill us, why don’t you fight for that kind of thinking to end? Instead of saying that we shouldn’t let the Holocaust define us, why don’t you help to make a world where we feel like a repeat performance isn’t possible? You don’t seem to understand that we’re facing danger from all over the world. You don’t seem to care.

But no, I am not one of your Good Jews, I’m afraid, and I’m disgusted that you would tokenize the experiences of other Jews to try and shame me.

I also believe that everybody deserves dignity and equal rights, and I don’t believe that having a Jewish-majority country is mutually exclusive with this idea.

You’re part of the problem. If you really want Zionism to go away, your style of rhetoric needs to go away. 

I don’t appropriate anything, I just wanted to post something that I agree on. It is important to discuss about different topics because we can share our view. I always do it, but I never insult my opponent, so I would really appreciate the same from you.

Just so you know.
Your hystory is our history.
My granparents lived under fascism.
We study history since we are children in order not to repeat it.
We remember every year every people that had lost their life because of nazism/fascism.
Because we want to remember.
Because we care.

So, I just want you to be sure that I condemn and I will always condemn every effort to recreate this kind of policies.

That’s exactly the same reason why I condemn Zionism.
A state with a Jewish-majority would not absolutely a problem. The problem would be a state where this majority has more rights then the others. And that’s what Israel offers now to its arab citizens.

Maybe yes, you’re right: I will never understand what it means to live a life like yours. But this doen’t mean that I will stop believing that you can’t reach peace with war. And it is my right, as an Italian citizen, to ask my government to stop financing weapons and to start real peace talks where everyone’s rights are respected. And this means not only a ceasefire, but also the end of the occupation.

…Do you not understand that violent, genocidal antisemitism isn’t a past-tense thing? That there are many, many people who would see every single Jewish person in the world dead, if they could, regardless of their affiliation with Israel? Do you understand that this has resulted in Jews being targeted in the Diaspora in retaliation for the actions of the Israeli government?

Uch. Who am I kidding. You clearly don’t give a shit.

Good luck preaching to your choir while engaging in antisemitic rhetoric, spouting off platitudes that offer no practical solutions while completely dismissing the valid concerns of Jews over their continued safety from global antisemitism.

Your activism is bad and you should feel bad. 

Ok, I’ll stop here because I don’t discuss things with people that are only able to insult me. 
Thanks for judging me without even knowing me.
Good luck with your propaganda.

amarielah:

scrokkalanotizia:

amarielah:

scrokkalanotizia:

amarielah:

scrokkalanotizia:

I am not especially bothered by right-wingers who defend Israel’s indefensible onslaught against Gaza. Right-wingers who supported the Vietnam war (if they were around then) or the Iraq war, the people who want to go to war with Russia now. I get that. Right-wingers (think John McCain) like war and view it as sport; their side is always right.

But progressive Jews (and most Jews are progressives or, at least, liberal Democrats) aren’t like that. They dominated the anti-Vietnam war movement. They opposed the Iraq war. They never bought into Cold War rhetoric, which is why Joe McCarthy disproportionately targeted Jews when he was going after “Reds.”

So what’s happened? Why are Jews running off to support this war “like lemmings going to a Barbra Streisand concert,” as one correspondent put it to me. What’s going on?

It’s simple. Most Jews, apparently, are as chauvinistic as every other ethnic group.

If they saw any other army (including the U.S. army) doing what the Israeli army is doing, they would be appalled at the monstrous cruelty and they would say so. And they would demand an end to the war through an agreement that met both sides needs. They would not explain away the bombing of hospitals or of children playing on the beach.

But they are apparently okay with these horrors when Jews are doing them, even buying into obscene propaganda (like something out of Berlin in 1942) that Palestinians are ,in Netanyahu’s words,using “telegenically-dead Palestinians for their cause. They want- the more dead the better.” Telegenically-dead. Pure Orwell or Kafka.

Imagine believing that Palestinians are picking out beautiful babies to die to advance their cause.

It’s obscene and too moronic for Jews to believe. But, check the social media, many do. (The idea actually came from Charles Krauthammer, of course. Netanyahu just borrowed it).

So, after 3000 years, we learn that Jews are just like everyone else. After all those centuries when our ancestors condemned the “goyim” (I hate the term but that is the term they used) for killing each other (and us) like barbarians, we learn that under the right conditions, we behave the same way. So much for all our Holocaust lessons about how the world was silent in the face of the horrors inflicted on us. We would have been silent too.

We are the same. Not all of us, not those of us (and there are many) who hate this war and oppose it. But the rest, the ones like Barney Frank who, a life-long opponent of all war, isan ardent supporter of this one. Why? Because he’s Jewish and must root for the home team. That is entirely what so-called “Solidarity with Israel” is all about now: choosing “blood” over morality.

3000 years and it’s come to this. Go Blue (and White).

I keep wondering if this is all some test that God is administering to Jews. How will Jews behave when the shoe is on the other foot?

Now He knows.

And we know too. If you defend this war, you are defending atrocities because, when it comes to Israel, you suspend all moral judgement. Fine. Just don’t think you are fooling anyone.

A very eloquent answer to the question posed in this article.

Dismissing this phenomenon as a simple example of “ethnic chauvinism” is as blind to the history of our suffering as a people as this article claims the “Team Israel” crowd is.

The article that you posted ends with the sentence “what do you want us to do?”

How about not voting these politicians, stopping settlement building, speaking out against human rights violations, stopping the occupation of others’ land, respecting UN resolution and human rights, giving Palestinians their right to build their own state or living all together in the same land?

We are all human and it is normal to be scared, and I also understand your fears, considering what your parents/grandparents have gone through. But please, you can’t use the Holocaust to justify war crimes! This would be unfair to the people that had suffered during it.

You have to understand that you can’t continue to push someone into a corner and think that they will not react when they will not be able to breathe.

You are in a position of streght and you can use it to change this horrible situation. It is your moral duty.

If only you stop being afraid of the people that you considered your enemy just for one moment…

If only you listen to them…

I am sure that you would talk with people that just want to live in peace but cannot because their lives depend on the occupyng state’s will since 1967.

That’s what every Palestinian says to me everytime we talk about the situation.

But but but…I believe we will never agree, considering that you thinks of yourself as a Zionist and I completely condemn Zionism, because I totally refuse the idea of a State where some citizens (jews) have more rights than others (non-jews). On the contrary, I believe that everyone deserves dignity and equal rights.

There are many Jews that, having experienced a life full of sufference or having parents and grandparents that escaped from Europe or died during the Holocaust, had decided to condemn Zionism, because they considered it a radical, racist and dangerous political project.
Think about it.

Your phrasing gives the impression that you are not Jewish yourself. Is this correct?

No I am not.
Have I less rights to talk about human rights and/or Middle East? 

No, but you don’t have a right to appropriate intra-Jewish issues, attempt to shame us with our history of oppression, or tokenize those of us who agree with you.

Progressives in Israel are already voting for the politicians who support the measures you suggested, numbnuts. They’re being drowned out by right-wing votes. They’re also publicly protesting, and it isn’t doing jack shit. So, again, what do you expect them (us) to do? Do you have solutions that take actual political reality into account, or just more self-righteous platitudes?

I can tell you how you can help, though: instead of telling us that we should just not be afraid of the millions of people who say outright that they want to kill us, why don’t you fight for that kind of thinking to end? Instead of saying that we shouldn’t let the Holocaust define us, why don’t you help to make a world where we feel like a repeat performance isn’t possible? You don’t seem to understand that we’re facing danger from all over the world. You don’t seem to care.

But no, I am not one of your Good Jews, I’m afraid, and I’m disgusted that you would tokenize the experiences of other Jews to try and shame me.

I also believe that everybody deserves dignity and equal rights, and I don’t believe that having a Jewish-majority country is mutually exclusive with this idea.

You’re part of the problem. If you really want Zionism to go away, your style of rhetoric needs to go away. 

I don’t appropriate anything, I just wanted to post something that I agree on. It is important to discuss about different topics because we can share our view. I always do it, but I never insult my opponent, so I would really appreciate the same from you.

Just so you know.
Your hystory is our history.
My granparents lived under fascism.
We study history since we are children in order not to repeat it.
We remember every year every people that had lost their life because of nazism/fascism.
Because we want to remember.
Because we care.

So, I just want you to be sure that I condemn and I will always condemn every effort to recreate this kind of policies.

That’s exactly the same reason why I condemn Zionism.
A state with a Jewish-majority would not absolutely a problem. The problem would be a state where this majority has more rights then the others. And that’s what Israel offers now to its arab citizens.

Maybe yes, you’re right: I will never understand what it means to live a life like yours. But this doen’t mean that I will stop believing that you can’t reach peace with war. And it is my right, as an Italian citizen, to ask my government to stop financing weapons and to start real peace talks where everyone’s rights are respected. And this means not only a ceasefire, but also the end of the occupation.

amarielah:

scrokkalanotizia:

amarielah:

scrokkalanotizia:

I am not especially bothered by right-wingers who defend Israel’s indefensible onslaught against Gaza. Right-wingers who supported the Vietnam war (if they were around then) or the Iraq war, the people who want to go to war with Russia now. I get that. Right-wingers (think John McCain) like war and view it as sport; their side is always right.

But progressive Jews (and most Jews are progressives or, at least, liberal Democrats) aren’t like that. They dominated the anti-Vietnam war movement. They opposed the Iraq war. They never bought into Cold War rhetoric, which is why Joe McCarthy disproportionately targeted Jews when he was going after “Reds.”

So what’s happened? Why are Jews running off to support this war “like lemmings going to a Barbra Streisand concert,” as one correspondent put it to me. What’s going on?

It’s simple. Most Jews, apparently, are as chauvinistic as every other ethnic group.

If they saw any other army (including the U.S. army) doing what the Israeli army is doing, they would be appalled at the monstrous cruelty and they would say so. And they would demand an end to the war through an agreement that met both sides needs. They would not explain away the bombing of hospitals or of children playing on the beach.

But they are apparently okay with these horrors when Jews are doing them, even buying into obscene propaganda (like something out of Berlin in 1942) that Palestinians are ,in Netanyahu’s words,using “telegenically-dead Palestinians for their cause. They want- the more dead the better.” Telegenically-dead. Pure Orwell or Kafka.

Imagine believing that Palestinians are picking out beautiful babies to die to advance their cause.

It’s obscene and too moronic for Jews to believe. But, check the social media, many do. (The idea actually came from Charles Krauthammer, of course. Netanyahu just borrowed it).

So, after 3000 years, we learn that Jews are just like everyone else. After all those centuries when our ancestors condemned the “goyim” (I hate the term but that is the term they used) for killing each other (and us) like barbarians, we learn that under the right conditions, we behave the same way. So much for all our Holocaust lessons about how the world was silent in the face of the horrors inflicted on us. We would have been silent too.

We are the same. Not all of us, not those of us (and there are many) who hate this war and oppose it. But the rest, the ones like Barney Frank who, a life-long opponent of all war, isan ardent supporter of this one. Why? Because he’s Jewish and must root for the home team. That is entirely what so-called “Solidarity with Israel” is all about now: choosing “blood” over morality.

3000 years and it’s come to this. Go Blue (and White).

I keep wondering if this is all some test that God is administering to Jews. How will Jews behave when the shoe is on the other foot?

Now He knows.

And we know too. If you defend this war, you are defending atrocities because, when it comes to Israel, you suspend all moral judgement. Fine. Just don’t think you are fooling anyone.

A very eloquent answer to the question posed in this article.

Dismissing this phenomenon as a simple example of “ethnic chauvinism” is as blind to the history of our suffering as a people as this article claims the “Team Israel” crowd is.

The article that you posted ends with the sentence “what do you want us to do?”

How about not voting these politicians, stopping settlement building, speaking out against human rights violations, stopping the occupation of others’ land, respecting UN resolution and human rights, giving Palestinians their right to build their own state or living all together in the same land?

We are all human and it is normal to be scared, and I also understand your fears, considering what your parents/grandparents have gone through. But please, you can’t use the Holocaust to justify war crimes! This would be unfair to the people that had suffered during it.

You have to understand that you can’t continue to push someone into a corner and think that they will not react when they will not be able to breathe.

You are in a position of streght and you can use it to change this horrible situation. It is your moral duty.

If only you stop being afraid of the people that you considered your enemy just for one moment…

If only you listen to them…

I am sure that you would talk with people that just want to live in peace but cannot because their lives depend on the occupyng state’s will since 1967.

That’s what every Palestinian says to me everytime we talk about the situation.

But but but…I believe we will never agree, considering that you thinks of yourself as a Zionist and I completely condemn Zionism, because I totally refuse the idea of a State where some citizens (jews) have more rights than others (non-jews). On the contrary, I believe that everyone deserves dignity and equal rights.

There are many Jews that, having experienced a life full of sufference or having parents and grandparents that escaped from Europe or died during the Holocaust, had decided to condemn Zionism, because they considered it a radical, racist and dangerous political project.
Think about it.

Your phrasing gives the impression that you are not Jewish yourself. Is this correct?

No I am not.
Have I less rights to talk about human rights and/or Middle East?